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12 Sep 2018 07:13 #70830 by vlad_vy
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At model setup page select protocol name (Hubsan or any other) and press "ENT" button, you will see current protocol options.

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12 Sep 2018 08:08 - 12 Sep 2018 08:09 #70832 by doittom
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vlad_vy wrote: Try to use protocol option "Format" = "H107", "H301", "H501". Press ENT on protocol name.


I understood your saying. I got format h107, h301, h501.
I tried to bind my h502s and jumper t8+ with format107, 301, 501 each
But I did not succeed in binding.
Is there any other special action which i take ?
Tks vm
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12 Sep 2018 08:28 #70833 by doittom
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vlad_vy wrote: At model setup page select protocol name (Hubsan or any other) and press "ENT" button, you will see current protocol options.

I got protocol option (h107, 301, 501)
Each of 3 format(h107, 301, 501) did not works for binding h502s and jumper t8+.
I got fixed id but failed binding.
If any, please give me more information.
Tks vm.

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12 Sep 2018 13:16 #70834 by planger
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We need someone to do SPI dumps of the new TX.

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12 Sep 2018 14:01 #70835 by vlad_vy
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Try bind with different "Freq Tune" values, with step 15-20.

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12 Sep 2018 23:23 #70859 by doittom
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vlad_vy wrote: Try bind with different "Freq Tune" values, with step 15-20.


I appreciate for your assistance.
i will try to bind with "Freq Tune"change

what is "step15-20"?
if possible, please let me know the page which i can see "steps"

Thanks VM

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13 Sep 2018 04:19 #70866 by vlad_vy
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"Freq Tune" range is -300 to 300. Will be faster to test value with some step.

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13 Sep 2018 07:07 #70868 by doittom
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vlad_vy wrote: "Freq Tune" range is -300 to 300. Will be faster to test value with some step.


I have questions.

Which option among 107, 301, 501 is right for binding h502s and jumper v2+?

The meaning of step 15~20 is decresing(or increasing) Freq Tune by 15unit (or 20) step by step From 300, is it?

Tks vm

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30 Sep 2018 13:51 #71104 by goebish
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The H502s isn't on my list ... if it doesn't bind with any of the 3 hubsan sub-protocols we need some spi dump of the stock Tx to implement it into deviation.

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30 Sep 2018 19:52 #71106 by MikeNH
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In past Deviation versions, I've been able to bind and fly my Hubsan H502s. From this forum I used the ini file. With the Deviation version I am using currently (deviation-devo7e-v5.0.0-362ffd0), I am able to bind to the H502s but I am unable to get the props to spin by using the down-and-out stick movement to emulate the stock Hubsan TX. I see that it is bound because I get voltage telemetry from the H502s on my Devo 7e tx. I am also able to turn the LEDs on and off and I see the blue LEDs change when I turn off the tx. The steps I use which has worked in the past are:

1 - Using the original Hubsan tx, I connect to the H502s and change the "Fly without GPS" to Yes.
2 - Power off the H502s and the original tx.
3 - Using my Devo 7e, I choose the Hubsan4 protocol using the H501 format. I use goggles so I set the 5,8ghz frequency and I turn Telemetry to On so I get voltage on the tx from the copter.
4 - Then click the "Bind" button and while the screen says "Binding [name]" I power up the H502s.
5 - The LEDs provide a clue as to the behavior. The Blue LEDs will blink quickly indicating the bind attempt. Then the copter's LEDs will indicate the need to "Calibrate 1" followed by the calibrate 2 sequence.
6 - With calibration successfully completed, the props should spin when the sticks are in the down-and-out position as with the original tx. I can't get the props to spin as I once was able to.

I've attached the ini file that has worked in the past.

I don't know how to do a "...spi dump of the stock Tx..." but would be happy to with some direction.

Thanks,
Mike
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01 Oct 2018 08:14 #71117 by goebish
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Ah Ok, if I remember well the h502s had a firmware upgrade and can't bind to deviation since then, we need some spi dump to understand what has changed.
SPI capture guide: www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...95-spi-capture-guide

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01 Oct 2018 15:29 - 01 Oct 2018 15:41 #71126 by MikeNH
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The problem with turning the props when indoors is that each time the H502s is disconnected and re-bound to the Devo 7e, it was returned to the default setting of flying with GPS. This means that indoors, the required 7(?) satellites is never reached therefore the props won't spin.

After realizing this, I took the H502s outdoors and following the steps above #71106 , the props spun using the down-and-out stick movement.

My H502s version is V4.2.9 & LCD V1.3.4

Sorry, but the SPI capture is beyond my skills.
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08 Nov 2018 23:55 #71660 by JayDrone
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the 502 drones are a pain because they need gps so if ur binding in house as I figured out it may seem like it bound and may seem like it didnt

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09 Nov 2018 10:58 - 09 Nov 2018 12:14 #71670 by goebish
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Get a 8CH logic analyzer ($5 on ebay...) then capture the SPI bus of the stock transmitter while you turn "Fly without GPS" on & off then we should be able to add it to Deviation.
There are lots of flag bytes in this protocol, trying to find this one by trial & error would be tiresome.
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09 Nov 2018 16:36 #71679 by JayDrone
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id need a how to video to be able to do the captures and if it takes soldering that is one skill i lack bro -

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09 Nov 2018 16:57 #71680 by JayDrone
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also i dont think on this one u can toggle gps on or off i could be wrong but just initial thought

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09 Nov 2018 20:22 - 10 Nov 2018 11:50 #71685 by goebish
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There is a video here:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...95-spi-capture-guide
Soldering is required, but that's just soldering some wires to "large" pads in the case of Hubsan transmitters.
In doubt, post some pictures of the inside of your transmitter then we'll tell where to solder the probing wires.

If your soldering skills are lacking then just practice soldering wires to some scrap PCBs you've around, soldering is not a very complicated task, that only requires practice (not a lot for this kind of task...), my next challenge is to hand solder some QFN28 ICs without solder paste nor stencil to make my 3D printer quieter, but as I value its main board I'll practice unsoldering / resoldering gyro ICs (same package) on old FC boards first ;)
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13 Nov 2018 01:51 #71739 by JayDrone
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yeah im not u for the solder game -- i do work then the youtube thing and every thing else i do on a day to day -- but I DO have a proposition for you -- id love to have the dm009 on devo -- I would be happy to send you a brand new one as a have a bunch of them and see if u can make a protocol

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13 Nov 2018 10:51 #71740 by goebish
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Open the Tx and Rx first and let me know which ICs are inside, not every Tx can be deviated.(at least not with the 4 transceivers we're supporting ...)

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13 Nov 2018 15:36 - 13 Nov 2018 15:44 #71741 by JayDrone
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if u can explaine what they r sure what im looking for -- or again it is no hassle to just send u a full package lipos drone controller if u can deviate than cool and if not enjoy the toy runs on 7.4 good brushed quad-- quad id send reguardless outcome u can keep
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